Saturday, March 1, 2025

JOKER: FOLIE A DEUX (2024)

 


Directed By: Todd Phillips 

Written By: Todd Phillips and Scott Silver 

Based on characters created by: Bob Kane, Bill Finger, Jerry Robinson, Paul Dini, and Bruce Timm 

Cinematography: Lawrence Sher 

Editor: Jeff Groth


Cast: Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Zazie Beetz, Steve Coogan, Leigh Gill, Harry Lawtey, Ken Leung, Bill Smitrovich 


Arthur Fleck, now incarcerated at Arkham State Hospital, who encounters Harleen Quinzel, a fellow patient who becomes dangerously obsessed with his Joker persona. Their shared psychosis fuels a destructive and increasingly chaotic relationship, blurring the lines between reality and fantasy. The film delves deeper into Arthur's mental state, exploring the complexities of his condition and the enduring power of his iconic villainous persona.


This is more a free-expression sequel than a typical continuation. 


One Refuses to rate it as it doesn’t work as a sequel. People who match it will view it differently as expected and wanted. It seems to be less about commerce here and more of a message and commentary on useless unnecessary sequels.


The story and discussions built up by the first film come off as meaningless. As the continuing story of the main character. Ends up being an imposter or that of a wannabe. Whose story while eventful has no true reasoning or purpose.


While having a singing superstar as his co-star, Joaquin Phoenix showed no talent or aptitude for singing. Though helps show the delusional message of ourselves singing to ourselves it is more about the emotion, mood, and lyrics an expression than talent. Thought for others it is more about wanting to experience it all including image and talent. 


While also leaving Phoenix a reason to return to a character and make him more of an interest to the actor. Though like slipping on yesterday's worn clothes. A return with comfort but wanting to change or move on. Despite winning an Oscar for his first portrayal and for an actor who wants to be more of a chameleon it feels like a trap or curse only coming back for the check and making it fun for themselves. Making a mockery of all the hoopla and the Hollywood system in general.


A rebellious act when a studio forces a filmmaker to make a sequel never quite designed and what they do with it. An artistic enterprise but also a center move to insult not only the powers that be but in true punk rock fashion even the audience. Encouraging them to think for themselves and find meaning in what was worth it not necessarily what they are given. Don’t let them force-feed you what is not good for you, but fans spending money on these Hollywood films looking for an escape sided against it as it was their anti-hero who they cared about doing to them what he was doing to the establishment.


Just as when the public sides with Jones and disrupters as clowns like Tom Green in the past and all was fun when laughing with them but when the joke is on you. not as happy and truly see how the others felt. The power is held by the comedian who feeds off of reaction.


If anything this is more dour and dull. It also seems like Todd Phillips is going for a vision and not be accused of copying another film or filmmaker like he was with the first Joker film oddly similar to the films of Martin Scorsese TAXI DRIVER and KING OF COMEDY in particular


Even though most of the musical scenes are borrowed from other classic musicals and sung in full. Though with no artistic flair or dancers no flash. Though the of my friends who can see me now are at least notable for trying 


As is said in the film. The people care about the Joker, not Arthur Fleck. This film Seems to be more about Arthur Fleck and that pissed the audience and studio off. 


So Some might argue this is a character piece that explores his fractured embracing and obsession with musicals and things played out in the same way. As well as getting to play and have commentary on pop culture and the simulators of what he is going through as well as the situations he finds himself in. 


Not adding any flash to the mundane most of the time. Disillusionment and only a minor character if any to the Gotham City residents. As he is more a means to an end of inspiration than into the more fantasy-based realities. It plays more like a courtroom drama with some Personal insights from the characters 

Not living up to other's expectations your berries never quite being who you are sorry for them

To be your ideals and be the mascot or symbol for others' actions and emotions when it really has nothing to really to do with them or what they believe so they become More A symbol. Waking up to reality over fantasy 


A story ultimately about being used as a representation for something you have no connection truly with and being dumped when you Don’t  Live up to others' ideals. Which seems to be the exact reaction to this film. As well as a perfect ending to this particular franchise making sure there will be no follow-up. 


Idolization and the origin story or dramatizing similar events to some known Characters. Is as far as this movie gets into the official DC universe. It comes off as one of the more interesting side stories you might see on BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES. Only

Of course, mroe adult-themed here.


Can give Todd Phillips credit as this is one of his more original and nuanced films that he has made where he goes over the line and still doesn’t feel like too much, but an all-over-the-place portrait.


Lady Gaga’s role feels underwritten and she’s not given much to do but be a cheerleader with very little interior life of her own and play a more recent iconic character from the series comic books series and she does it in a different way and in the end only wants one side of them, not the total package almost like a hanger on her groupie who’s disappointed to find out the real person behind the persona


Director Todd Phillips claims this is not a musical or at least not one in a traditional sense obviously where he states there are no songs. It just has no words for feelings and emotions so uses lyrics as dialogue to speak for yes that works the same with mixtapes for some of us , essentially this is the same strip down using other other ideas to tell a story



This feels like a case of my kid could faint way better than yours. He wants the audience to be thrown off as he has either made a rebellious piece of art or just a bad sequel that feels like a prank by the main character himself the joker, I can see it in many ways and the different interpretations That leaves this at least somewhat and seeking to be different after the first film was rightfully criticized at times for feeling like a copy of a Martin Scorsese film or at least specifically taxi driver mixed with the king of comedy even having the star of that film Robert De Niro in the film in a smaller supporting role


In this case, the film is not copying the works of Scorsese, but a little bit of musical, stripping them down a flare and making it more dramatic rather than writing dialogue or scenes for impact of what he wants and resting on the backs of musicals, but denying them it shot exactly Experimentally, but with the visuals

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